Outdoor Portraits in sunlight and shade


Chrism8

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 13:07
Good Afternoon All,

My first serious attempt with the Cactus V6ii triggers and RF60X flash unit V strong direct sunlight, I say first attempt, only because we've not had that much decent sunshine so far this year and when I've had a suitable lass booked as well.

The first image I was against strong backlight sunshine, shot about 10:30am yesterday, as can be seen by the shadow of the lady and the building is in shadow as well.

All K1 with Sigma 85mm F1.4 @ F1.4, ISO 100 the top image the flash was 1/2 power from 2m distance and the other 2 it were 1/4 power and about the same distance.

Shutter speed 1/1600 F1.4 100 ISO




Shutter speed 1/1250 F1.4 100 ISO




Shutter speed 1/800 F1.4 100 ISO




Thoughts and comments really appreciated please
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.
Last Edited by Chrism8 on 27/06/2018 - 13:08

derek897

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 14:44
I'm not going to go into the use of flash or how well it has worked here, as its not an area that I know about, but however you did it, it seems to have worked really well. That first shot, I wouldnt have known flash was used at all, and its interesting to see how the separation plays a huge part in the dof even at f1.4.
Cracking set, with the 1st one being my pick
I know what i like, If not always why.

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McGregNi

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 17:19
It's great to see the Cactus products in use out in the wild, and congrats Chris on pulling off a shoot on location with a model. Its no mean feat given the technical challenges, and of course balancing flash and ambient brightness in such conditions is very hard as you can't see the LCD easily

Here I think you've struck the balance just right with the middle one. Personally I quite like the overtly flashy look of the last one, but I know many others who will find it too much "in yer face" ...(well, in her face!). The flash may have been too far away on the first one, as it looks like it's struggled to light the face there, but that's always a hazard with a wider shot

Your model looks radiant and the location really shines with the strong sunlight and dabbled leaf highlights tamed nicely with your fast shutter speeds. Great to see thanks!
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

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Chrism8

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 18:40
Thanks Nigel and Derek,

My fav is the first one, the model would have been in silhouette if flash hadn't been used, I had to balance the white dress with enough light on her face.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

stub

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 18:51
Lovely model, lovely work.. I think the first two images have over exposed backgrounds which leaves the flash with a lot of work to do to fill in.. These highlight why it is sometimes difficult to use single flash outdoors in sunlight... They just aint powerful enough..!! But for me you have got the balance spot on in the third one,, Super image.. Keep up the good work..
K-1Gripped K-1 ungripped K-5ii K7 Various lenses

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Chrism8

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 19:24
Thanks Stuart,

I agree with your comment re the over exposure on the second shot, I decided to leave as is as I liked the effect and the RF60x was more than capable of balancing the exposure as the lass was deliberately sat in shade.

The only slight over-expisure on the first image is the strip of grass between the lass and the house, courtesy of the almost midday sun.

I am pleased with #3 as is the lass.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

pschlute

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 21:04
Very nice work.

My criticism would be that the first is lacking light to the face and shoulders, and the last image has the sunlight overexposing a couple of patches on her legs.

Having said that I would have been very proud of these.

3 is my favorite.
Peter



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Chrism8

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 21:50
Thanks Peter,

The difficulty was in balancing the additional flash on the lasses face and shoulders without over exposing the detail in the dress.

Appreciate your comments and thoughts, thank you.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

LennyBloke

Link Posted 27/06/2018 - 22:36
I know how difficult this can be from wedding photography I did many years ago (pre-digital) - I carried a little card with me that had distance, aperture and power ratio to get the right result, it took a long time to master

You've done a very nice job on these - so many of this type of shot are over-done and with too much vibrance and pop - yours are still pretty natural looking, the first one is particularly good for what is clearly difficult lighting, on the second and third the model stands out from the darker background just the right amount.


LennyBloke

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Chrism8

Link Posted 28/06/2018 - 05:59
Morning John,

Yes, I can imagine how hard these would be in the days of Film, the aim was not to over-cook the flash effect and to leave the BG as is.

I do now want to try and darken the BG at source on a shot similar to the first one.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

McGregNi

Link Posted 28/06/2018 - 09:00
You could do that, but you'll be p....ing into the wind as far as flash power goes. After 1/2000th there's very little left from a single hot shoe type flash. You could look to a double adaptor that will hold two flashes together .... Ideally this should be with a large modifier for softer light.

Otherwise you have to get the flash very close, and this rules out wider views, you have to go with long focal lengths and fairly traditional portrait framing, just to be able to have the flash at the very edge of the frame.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

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stub

Link Posted 28/06/2018 - 19:05
McGregNi wrote:
You could do that, but you'll be p....ing into the wind as far as flash power goes. After 1/2000th there's very little left from a single hot shoe type flash. You could look to a double adaptor that will hold two flashes together .... Ideally this should be with a large modifier for softer light.

Otherwise you have to get the flash very close, and this rules out wider views, you have to go with long focal lengths and fairly traditional portrait framing, just to be able to have the flash at the very edge of the frame.

That's really what I was trying to say... (badly versed maybe,, ) In my opinion you always decide your background exposure in camera. Then decide If the flash power is to merely fill the shadows. Balance the image or over power the sun and pop out the subject from the background


Sometimes an ND filter can help to slow the shutter speed giving an added power to the flash. By keeping it out of HSS zone.
K-1Gripped K-1 ungripped K-5ii K7 Various lenses

Stuart..

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DSP121

Link Posted 29/06/2018 - 06:16
Wow!
Very nice pictures!
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Chrism8

Link Posted 29/06/2018 - 06:52
DSP121 wrote:
Wow! Very nice pictures!

Thanks
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

Chrism8

Link Posted 29/06/2018 - 19:44
One from inside the same location this time, a degree of time was spent getting the pose and all the lines right on this one

K1 1/200 sec F2.8 @ 400 ISO - Bounced flash was used to the left of the model to supplement the daylight coming through the small window.



Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.
Last Edited by Chrism8 on 29/06/2018 - 19:45
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