No more digital cameras allowed in carry on baggage


1stEverPentax

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 16:37
Latest US/UK security rules to ban ALL electronic devices larger than a mobile phone from cabin baggage!

Initially these rules will only be applied to state airlines operating out of various Middle Eastern countries but i would expect them to be implemented on every international flight within days.

Suppose the budget airlines will be pleased...all that extra revenue as people will not have the option anymore of travelling without hold luggage UNLESS they are prepared to ditch all their electronic gear and leave at home.

What do people think?

johnriley

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 16:52
We'll have to see how it unfolds. If it becomes the norm then I don't fancy camera gear being chucked around the hold like other stuff can be, although there are specific, very tough cases just for the purpose.
Best regards, John

stu62

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 17:22
johnriley wrote:
We'll have to see how it unfolds. If it becomes the norm then I don't fancy camera gear being chucked around the hold like other stuff can be, although there are specific, very tough cases just for the purpose.

dont think that would make any differance john in fact it would make it easier to go missing
i know there is a rule among the handlers that there is a sertain lugage strap that says treat with care as its one of our own but cant find out what it is

JAK

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 17:48
There'll be a rush in getting Pentax Q's now then.
Actually it reads like a Trump idea - only MiddleEast to US flights affected, and he's made his thoughts on those flights clear already.
John K
Last Edited by JAK on 21/03/2017 - 17:54

stu62

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 17:52
JAK wrote:
There'll be a rush in getting Pentax Q's now then.

trouble is they dont make them any more

wvbarnes

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 17:53
Transferring planes in Middle East to Asia for holidays would also be a problem it seems.

We would have to buy aluminium cases for hold use I guess. Pretty sure a Russian plane that went down was due to an explosion in the hold!

On our December trip to Barbados for a cruise I was made to empty my camera bag completely for the scanner at Manchester (new one on me). I got my lenses back rolling around in a tray banging into each other. Not impressed! Gets worse every time we travel medium or long haul.

JAK

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 17:56
wvbarnes wrote:
Not impressed! Gets worse every time we travel medium or long haul.

Get yourself a Cessna!
John K

Mag07

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 20:26
As inconvenient as it is, I'd much rather be safe then sorry; or more likely, dead. I travel to the Middle East several times per year, and sadly security at most of their airports is appalling; as an example: I was late for my last flight back home; few smiles, and I got fast tracked through passport control and security. No one checked anything as they assumed a white, blond, middle aged woman is unlikely to be a threat and as I was accompanied by a staff member, they did not even tell me to put my carry-on through the scanner.

We really should be content that someone is taking it seriously.

Time to invest in proper hard case
'Photography...it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten....' (Aaron Siskind)
Last Edited by Mag07 on 21/03/2017 - 20:28

Gwyn

Link Posted 21/03/2017 - 20:49
Since you are not supposed to back Lithium batteries in hold luggage I am not sure how you get around this. Obviously for a camera you can carry the batteries on with you, but not so practical for other electrical items. The danger of a Lithium battery fire in the hold is a serious one, probably greater than the terrorist threat.
Also since you can carry your phone on board what is to stop some no good using that to trigger an explosive in the hold, assuming the threat is from some new undetectable explosive.

I dislike flying anyway, and thought of flying to or from say Australia on Emirates with no e-book or laptop makes me glad I have no plans to fly anywhere any time soon.

smudge

Link Posted 22/03/2017 - 07:30
The reports that I have seen do not include cameras within the definition of 'electronic devices'. They list laptops, tablets, e-readers, game consoles and very large phones.
Regards, Philip

Jonathan-Mac

Link Posted 22/03/2017 - 08:01
At the moment it's limited to certain countries so will not affect most people unless they have a connecting flight through one of those countries.

If it does expand to include other countries then the baggage handlers will get rich and travel insurance prices will shoot up as the claims come rolling in.
Pentax hybrid user - Digital K3 & K200D, film 645 and 35mm SLR and Pentax (&other) lenses adapted to Fuji X digital
Fan of DA limited and old manual lenses

JohnX

Link Posted 22/03/2017 - 08:34
smudge wrote:
The reports that I have seen do not include cameras within the definition of 'electronic devices'. They list laptops, tablets, e-readers, game consoles and very large phones.

It's any electronic equipment other than smartphones, although some medical equipment will be allowed after special screening. The threat appears to be from IS allegedly modifying otherwise fully functional electronic equipment to incorporate explosives.

What i don't get is the fact that certain equipment, including cameras, can be operated remotely via smartphones, so what's to stop a terrorist triggering a device in the aircraft hold from the cabin? Or back to electronic timers?

Unless there's effective rf screening in the aircraft, or more thorough baggage examination pre-loading that I'm not aware of it doesn't seem to have been thought through too well, unless the presumption is that a small explosion in an aircrafts hold is unlikely to cause significant impact on the aircrafts structural integrity?
Last Edited by JohnX on 22/03/2017 - 08:39

Mag07

Link Posted 22/03/2017 - 09:03
You can effectively kill all comms in a room so no signal can be transmitted. They use it in cinemas in the Middle East haha...as they are not very considerate of others so simply, as you enter, the signal gets cut off.
'Photography...it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten....' (Aaron Siskind)

kh1234567890

Link Posted 22/03/2017 - 09:09
The UK restrictions appear to allow cameras as carry on. Basically, no-one knows.

https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/electronic-devices-and-electrical-i...
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Mag07

Link Posted 22/03/2017 - 09:27
Hm, how do they expect you to put anything you buy at duty free in the luggage you don't have with you anymore ? :p
'Photography...it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten....' (Aaron Siskind)
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