news on the 645D about crop?


Mongoose

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 11:33
according to that then, if it's a Kodak sensor it's probably this one

http://www.kodak.com/global/plugins/acrobat/en/business/ISS/productsummary/FullF...
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K10D

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 11:34
Ken can have his comments, he is entitled to them. People will make up their own minds.

There are a lot of people who cannot stretch to the Hassled & Bladered prices and indeed these people may already be using FF high MP DSLR's so it will be interesting to see how the market reacts.

As with the Leicans, there will be Pentax users who will buy regardless and those with 645 glass that would be glad that the 645D has finally arrived.

I'm looking forward to seeing some full res images from it.

Regards

Mongoose

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 11:38
likewise. Leica seem to think there's a market for a larger than 35mm SLR, their S series has a similar size sensor. Of course Leica never go for large markets anyway but it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Anvh

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 16:56
Ken Rockwell is Ken Rockwell again, only Nikon is good enough.

K10D wrote:
There are a lot of people who cannot stretch to the Hassled & Bladered prices and indeed these people may already be using FF high MP DSLR's so it will be interesting to see how the market reacts.

I'm thinking of doing photography study and I must say that the 645D looks interesting, it's just a small step away from the high end FF camera's.
It would indeed be intersting to see how the market will react on this, hopefully the 645D has what it takes to stand up against the rest.
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

bwlchmawr

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 17:25
I know there's 1.27 crop factor which is a shame, but just look at it! A thing of beauty.

Imagine the image quality using just the centre of an old 645 lens!

Very desirable.

Andrew
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Anvh

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 17:31
Most digital MF cameras are crop so there is nothing to be ashamed about.
Just for fun.
The 645D has the KAF-40000 sensor from Kodak... do you know what the Hasselblad H4D-40 has? link

I wouldn't worry about the crop
Stefan


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DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Last Edited by Anvh on 10/03/2010 - 17:37

Anvh

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 17:48
H4D-40 is also quite new. link

Quote:
Now, with the launch of the H4D-40, Hasselblad is announcing its intent to bring the advantages of Medium Format DSLRs to high-end 35mm photographers.

....

Hasselblad is launching the H4D-40 worldwide via a series of dealer demonstrations and events in the Americas, Europe, and Asia. The H4D-40 starts at 13,995 Euro / 19.995 USD / 12.995 GBP for camera body, viewfinder, and 80mm lens, and is available for immediate shipping.

Seems there is a war going on that we hadn't notice yet

Since the 645D has the same sensor for half the price the future does look quite bright.
Hopefully the can put up a nice lens range in no time.
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

K10D

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 19:54
Anvh wrote:
Ken Rockwell is Ken Rockwell again, only Nikon is good enough.

K10D wrote:
There are a lot of people who cannot stretch to the Hassled & Bladered prices and indeed these people may already be using FF high MP DSLR's so it will be interesting to see how the market reacts.

I'm thinking of doing photography study and I must say that the 645D looks interesting, it's just a small step away from the high end FF camera's.
It would indeed be intersting to see how the market will react on this, hopefully the 645D has what it takes to stand up against the rest.

Yet lately Ken is so pro Leica that all else is trivia.

Regards

speters

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 21:37
Hi Willie,
the "crop factor" will be 1.27 for 645 lenses. For comparison it'll be a 0.79 crop factor for 35mm.
Greetings,
Stephan

Daniel Bridge

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 22:56
To be honest it seems like the guts of a K-7 inside a bigger body. I don't mean that as a bad thing, I'm sure it's meant that Pentax can finally bring the thing to market, at a good price. Ken Rockwell's 'review' does just seem laughable, like he's looked at a picture of it and made up what he assumes the camera's going to be like.

It's quite clear from the photo below that it has all the external controls you could realistically ask for.




Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...

Don

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 23:08
impotentspider wrote:
My heart sank when I read Ken Rockwells "review" of this camera, especially the but where he states the camera has "stupid picture modes," I immediately thought it was nothing more than a grown up Kx Followed by visions of Pentax going down the pan

Fortunately Gwyns link lists the modes you'd expect with no mention of "landscape or portrait" etc

I can see this appealing to a lot of pros, especially those who's budget doesnt stretch to the competition.

Under the title there is a yellow button on Ken's website that says "Please Help KenRockwell.com"
.... I think maybe I'll mail him some prozac, instead.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.

Anvh

Link Posted 10/03/2010 - 23:41
Don wrote:
Under the title there is a yellow button on Ken's website that says "Please Help KenRockwell.com"
.... I think maybe I'll mail him some prozac, instead.

I'll help you with that, maybe we all should send some

Impressive all those buttons isn't it, it will look so pro.
And you can say to the ladies "this little one has a shock/operation-noise reduction function to assure smooth, quiet operation and it's solid, manoeuvrable and doesn't mind some moist, it even has a unique Sensitivity-Priority mode" i'm sure they would love it. Oh and don't forget the "long battery life"
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

Unlocker

Link Posted 11/03/2010 - 00:18
Without knowing anything about the digital medium format market, how many of them are weather sealed? Would this make it unique?

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hefty1

Link Posted 11/03/2010 - 09:30
Unlocker wrote:
Without knowing anything about the digital medium format market, how many of them are weather sealed? Would this make it unique?

The Leica S2 is also sealed; but then it's still not in the shops, has a slightly poorer spec sheet than the 645D and is set to cost $23,000 without a lens.

I don't think there are any other sealed DMF cameras making this a bit of a travel/landscape photographer's dream I'd have thought.
Joining the Q

Anvh

Link Posted 12/03/2010 - 00:11
Official numbers translate from the Japanese 645D site.


Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
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