Mint and super rare Pentax lens collection - some advise please


froeschle

Link Posted 11/05/2012 - 22:16
Thanks,

you just have ruined my bargain chances - again. I would like to get a 600/5.6 for a reasonable price .
Quote:
SMC PENTAX -A * 600mm f5.6 ED IF

I have previously asked the seller about some details. E.g. "Obviously, the title and the picture have been copied from this auction: ebay www.ebay.com/itm/SMC-PENTAX-A-600mm-f5-6-ED-IF-super-telephoto-lens-499-/2610155... . Could you insert some images of the actual item?" (US $3000, japan-fuji-3776)

Still got no answer .. Be careful!

Algernon

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 08:30
The 600mm Lens seller is also asking for payment by cheque, which is
against ebay rules, although he isn't allowed to refuse Paypal.

Ebay traders don't you just love em'
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi

johnriley

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 08:45
eBay rules forbid payments in cash, but allow cheques and postal orders. They prefer PayPal, and to be honest it seems to be the safest route for all parties.
Best regards, John

Algernon

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 10:02
They don't forbid cash and openly mention cash on collection
as acceptable. They don't allow the seller to solicit the
mailing of cash.

I pointed out that the 600mm lens seller is contravening this:

Misleading & Discouraging Payments

Sellers who state in their listing that they accept certain payment methods must not selectively offer those payment methods to buyers or discourage buyers from using those payment methods.


This is the accepted payments page:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html#
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi

johnriley

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 17:08
Well the mailing of cash is the only thing that would apply IMHO, so I don't accept it.

I'm not quite sure what point you're making, but it's best not to try and flout the rules. Buyer and Seller protection, whatever you may think of it, is something at least but will be negated if the rules are not followed.
Best regards, John

Algernon

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 19:02
Algernon wrote:
The 600mm Lens seller is also asking for payment by cheque, which is against ebay rules

That's the only point I'm making..... I'm surprised ebay haven't got a bot to spot it. It's a well known scammers trick and ebay themselves have been caught out by it many times.

The request for a cheque is in the listing if you bother to read it.
Made payable to J. Smith would probably be fine.
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi

johnriley

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 19:48
Ah, I see, you mean he's asking only for payment by cheque.

Well I guess one way round that is for eBay to insist the everything is PayPal only, but many people would object to going down that route.

Back to Caveat Emptor I think.
Best regards, John

JAK

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 20:45
It's very suspicious with the whole listing detail and image copied from that other recent listing. Think I'd actually want to see the lens in person before I handed over any payment.

Item specifics state it is a macro/close up lens!

John
John K
Last Edited by JAK on 12/05/2012 - 20:48

Smeggypants

Link Posted 12/05/2012 - 23:01
johnriley wrote:
eBay rules forbid payments in cash, but allow cheques and postal orders. They prefer PayPal, and to be honest it seems to be the safest route for all parties.

Of course they do, it's a big earner for them.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

johnriley

Link Posted 13/05/2012 - 00:29
It's well understood that eBay owns PayPal, so obviously they will prefer to take their commission. However, it does offer many advantages, so I don't really begrudge them their profit margin.
Best regards, John

fatspider

Link Posted 13/05/2012 - 00:47
I agree that Paypal is a very nice secure way of paying and recieving funds, and I say that as both a personal and business user.
My Names Alan, and I'm a lensaholic.
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Algernon

Link Posted 13/05/2012 - 08:16
In the case of the 600mm (which I'm not interested in, but if I were )the only way I would personally buy it is to go round to the sellers house with the cash

Sellers need to be careful of accepting Paypal and then allowing collection. There have been quite a few cases of people later claiming from Paypal that they haven't received the item.
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi

johnriley

Link Posted 13/05/2012 - 09:31
Algi's point about collection is a very valid one. To avoid that situation I never allow collections.
Best regards, John

obione

Link Posted 13/05/2012 - 17:09
Looking at feedback on listing 600mm f/5.6 the sellers first lens for sale...um
************************************************************************[quote:3496ace15f="Algernon"]There's been a 600mm f/5.6 on ebay for a few days now for 2,000
I'm surprised that non of the people who complain about the shortage
of Pentax long glass haven't snapped it up

SMC PENTAX -A * 600mm f5.6 ED IF

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k-5, K-5ii,60-250 f4, 50 f1.4 af,17-70 f4, 100mm macro wr,siggy 10-20 siggy 100-300f4

thetimesaver

Link Posted 13/05/2012 - 18:23
I would suggest that everyone keeps their money in their pocket until my second collection goes on. Mint condition lenses, a seller with a solid trading history, positive feedback from the buyer of the A* 200mm macro and very happy to accept Paypal
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