manual mode and iso in k10d


ericp

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 08:51
I have started using manual mode a lot more on the k10d but I am stumped as to why the indicator that is usually reserved for the ISO reading (in Av mode) suddenly changes to display how many pictures you have left as soon as you switch to manual.

I have looked through all the settings and can't find a way to change this. Only one I found was Recordable Image No and option two of that just confused me. It states Displays max number images by half-pressing shutter rel button on cont. shoot. I don't know why I would ever need that and it does not seem to do what it says anyway.
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Pentax K10D, 50, 18-55, 28-70, 100, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 18-250, 28-75

pschlute

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 09:16
I am not certain, but it may have something to do with the fact that in manual mode you cannot use auto-ISO.
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ericp

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 10:19
yes you can't use auto iso and that is why i feel it is even more important to be able to see what the iso reading is in the view finder rather than how many pictures you have left.

I keep taking pictures at the wrong iso and it is frustrating. it doesn't happen when i use Av as i can see the iso setting in the viewfinder and i am not used to pressing the ok button to check the iso in manual
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Pentax K10D, 50, 18-55, 28-70, 100, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 18-250, 28-75

Unlocker

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 10:33
How about using TAV mode instead? Set the shutter speed and aperture that you want, it then sorts out the ISO from the range that you have allowed in the menu, I use it a lot!

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Mongoose

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 10:35
It's a shame you can't change it manually, but there's a limited amount of space in the display and the obviously felt remaining shots was more important.

Does anyone know if there's a quick and easy way to change the ISO in M mode? or do you have to go through the Fn menu?
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hefty1

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 10:39
Mongoose wrote:

Does anyone know if there's a quick and easy way to change the ISO in M mode? or do you have to go through the Fn menu?

Hold down the OK button and spin the front control wheel.
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iceblinker

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 10:50
I suspect the option to display ISO all the time was an after thought rather than part of the initial design of the firmware, but still it's puzzling why it wasn't included with the M and P modes.

There's no getting round it, unfortunately. You just have to press the OK button or remember what the ISO is.
~Pete

Mongoose

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 11:29
hefty1 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:

Does anyone know if there's a quick and easy way to change the ISO in M mode? or do you have to go through the Fn menu?

Hold down the OK button and spin the front control wheel.

thanks hefty, I wondered if it would be something like that.

Damn I love the K10D's control layout.
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ericp

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 14:52
Mongoose wrote:
hefty1 wrote:
Quote:

Does anyone know if there's a quick and easy way to change the ISO in M mode? or do you have to go through the Fn menu?

Hold down the OK button and spin the front control wheel.

thanks hefty, I wondered if it would be something like that.

Damn I love the K10D's control layout.

i would rather it was just displayed in the viewfinder. it seems it is not possible so that is how it is. thanks everyone for submitting your help. i wonder if this is the same in the k20d?
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Pentax K10D, 50, 18-55, 28-70, 100, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 18-250, 28-75

Unlocker

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 14:55
TAV mode does show you the ISO in the viewfinder, which may be the solution you need, or are you using M mode due to older glass?

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ericp

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 16:17
I will try TAV. What happens when you press the green button in TAV? I quite like the fact I can set the green button to aperture or shutter priority in M mode.
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Pentax K10D, 50, 18-55, 28-70, 100, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 18-250, 28-75

Unlocker

Link Posted 28/07/2008 - 17:10
Just checked the custom menu on the K20 and you can choose from

Program Line
Tv Shift
Av Shift

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ericp

Link Posted 29/07/2008 - 10:50
indeed you can. thank you very much this may be the best mode for me. only wish i could set iso explicitly rather than a range in auto but hey, you can't have it all
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Pentax K10D, 50, 18-55, 28-70, 100, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 18-250, 28-75

justgetoutandride

Link Posted 29/07/2008 - 18:16
I use manual mode 99% of the time, using the info in the display I can tell if I need to change the iso, the lightmeter goes way down and the shutter speed goes way down too. Depending on the scene I may not want a 10 second exposure, so I up the iso until the shutter speed is in the range I want.

I try to keep iso at 100 so as to avoid intrusive noise. However, most of my images are landscape, taken using a tripod and plenty of time.... and I still get it wrong 90% of the time!

If I need to be faster on the trigger then I use full auto or the custom user settings I have set.
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Last Edited by justgetoutandride on 29/07/2008 - 18:16

ericp

Link Posted 30/07/2008 - 10:26
i tried TAv and it is not really what i want. Changing the iso is more complicated than i would like. i think i will stick to manual and just remember to check the iso by pressing ok every now and again
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Pentax K10D, 50, 18-55, 28-70, 100, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 18-250, 28-75
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