Kx and K10 for football pics


Rataegeoff

Link Posted 17/05/2010 - 11:06
Hi Guys

Over the months I've had some great pointers form folk on here.

I now use both a KX and my older K10 for shooting action pictures at various amateur football games.

The K10 is normally used in TAv mode and centre point focussing.

I tried this with the KX and found a greater number of our of focus shots.

With the KX the technique for me is to set the auto ISO range in the 200-1600 bracket, use the camera with its sports setting and to adopt the 11 point AF. I'm finding this way I get more "keepers" than on the K10.

The KX is doing an amazing job and seemingly very responsively. Maybe I'll have to rethink this lazy approach when the light drops again in the winter but meanhwile its great to just take/frame the pictures you want and leave the camera to the calculations.

The one short cut I have set up on the KX is to dedicate the green button to allow manual focussing for those shots where the foreground defeats the camera (eg when shooting through the goal net) This is a good tip maybe for anyone who has the auto AF only lenses -like the 50-300 mm kit glass.

As many of you will know the challenge with live sports is to be in the right place - and even the KX can't tell me where that is!

Hope this helps others.

Geoff
K10D,KX, DA 18-55, DA 17-70 AL(IF) SDM, DA*50-135, Sigma 70-300, DAL 50-300mm, Kenko 1.5x, loads of SD cards and even more optimism

giofi

Link Posted 17/05/2010 - 15:38
Thanks For the hints Geoff! I will try those.

Out of curiousity, which lens(es) do yo use?

Giorgio
Giorgio

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Peter Elgar

Link Posted 17/05/2010 - 16:15
You should try photographing Billericay FC on a December afternoon at 3pm with a Pentax S3 all manual !! It's 125th at f1.4 on HP5 rated at 1000 !
been a member of Pentax Club since the Ron Spillman era! Got COMPUTERISED at last - DIGITISED? Taken the PLUNGE - BUT FILM STILL RULES !!!

Rataegeoff

Link Posted 17/05/2010 - 23:43
Hello Giofi

Mostly I'm using the 50-300 mm DAL. When the light really drops I have the 50-135. So far I've not been to any floodlit games since I got my Kx. The high ISO performance of that little baby is just amazing,

Whether even the Kx and a 2.8 lens would cope with Peter's Billericay challenge is a good call, I suspect that at iso 6400 and 2.8 to 4 some reasonable results could be expected. Doesn't motion blur add to the artistic appeal anyway?

It would be interesting to hear from other sports photographers. There must be guys who use some of the super old manual or semi auto lenses.

Geoff
K10D,KX, DA 18-55, DA 17-70 AL(IF) SDM, DA*50-135, Sigma 70-300, DAL 50-300mm, Kenko 1.5x, loads of SD cards and even more optimism

Daniel Bridge

Link Posted 18/05/2010 - 09:37
Rataegeoff wrote:
Whether even the Kx and a 2.8 lens would cope with Peter's Billericay challenge is a good call, I suspect that at iso 6400 and 2.8 to 4 some reasonable results could be expected. Doesn't motion blur add to the artistic appeal anyway?

Billericay had some floodlights installed in the 70's, so it's not so bad anymore.

Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...

giofi

Link Posted 18/05/2010 - 15:47
Rataegeoff wrote:
Hello Giofi

Mostly I'm using the 50-300 mm DAL. When the light really drops I have the 50-135.

Geoff

Thanks Geoff,

I have been using the 50-135 and the FA 100-300 (Powerzoom). I have been thinking whether the 50-300 would be an improvement over the 100-300 as it has so good reviews
Giorgio

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Rataegeoff

Link Posted 19/05/2010 - 23:02
Hi Giofi
I also have the Sigma 70-300 which i bought at the same time as my K10. It has the advantage over Pentax 50-300 in that it allows for some macro work.

On balance I prefer the Pentax zoom. Seems to be a little sharper at the 250-300 mm end.

Maybe others have experiences which will help you to decide? No doubt zoom lenses have advantages and disadvantages. Folk will have their own views concerning the compromises.

When I look at my past football pictures the main issue has been the accuracy of the focus - followed by camera shake or subject movement.

As I mentioned above the KX seems to give me better focus and surely works well with the 50-300 mm lens.

Geoff
K10D,KX, DA 18-55, DA 17-70 AL(IF) SDM, DA*50-135, Sigma 70-300, DAL 50-300mm, Kenko 1.5x, loads of SD cards and even more optimism

giofi

Link Posted 20/05/2010 - 06:04
Thanks again Geoff
Giorgio

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