K1 viewfinder compared to ME-Super

tigershoot
Posted 16/02/2021 - 21:52 Link
I have a query about the K1. I have had an ME-Super since 1983 and loved the big bright viewfinder, which I took for granted until I moved to digital with the K20D. I have always thought the viewfinder on the K20, K5 and K3ii is very poor compared to the old film days. Is the K1, being FF comparable to the ME-Super?
What do you reckon?
K3iii, K3ii, K-5, K-x, DA150-450mm, DA16-85WR, DA16-45, DA18-55WR, DA18-135WR, DA35 F2.4, M100mm F4 Macro, DA55-300mm, FA50mm 1.4, AF360 Flash, AF540 Flash
johnriley
Posted 16/02/2021 - 22:34 Link
The first thing is to make sure the dioptre adjustment is made correctly. This should be adjusted until the etched lines in the viewfinder are sharpest and is best done looking at a plain surface or an out of focus subject. Then, the Pentax cameras that use a proper glass pentaprism will look much better than the penta-mirrors used by many other manufacturers (and some of the lower cost Pentax bodies too).

The K-1 viewfinder is much larger, being full frame (and the K-3 III looks set to be larger still, despite being APS-C) and gives a view similar to any other pentaprism model, such as the ME Super. However, many lenses are zooms that are not as bright as older lenses used to be, so the comparison is best mad with, say, a 50mm f/1.4 lens. A zoom that is f/4-5.6 would always look darker anyway.

I'm very happy with the K-1 viewfinder, one of the plus points of using full frame.
Best regards, John
Benz3ne
Posted 17/02/2021 - 10:20 Link
johnriley wrote:
I'm very happy with the K-1 viewfinder, one of the plus points of using full frame.
+1 John.

Even though I no longer use a K-1, I was very happy with the viewfinder. It was especially good when coupled with the O-ME53 magnifier. It was definitely bright, comparable to some film cameras I've used.
It'll be worth noting what maximum aperture your lens on the ME Super had/has versus the K-3ii, too. If you're using an f/2.8 on the K3ii but used an f/1.4 on the ME Super, you'll have more light coming in through the viewfinder in the case of the latter.
Edited by Benz3ne: 17/02/2021 - 10:20
Posted 10/10/2025 - 15:31 Link
Old thread but for future reference: The ME Super viewfinder is the best I have ever seen on any camera including medium format. It's exceptionally and weirdly good and the K1 viewfinder is way more dark and small (even with the exact same lenses)
johnriley
Posted 10/10/2025 - 15:38 Link
Old threads never die, they just patiently wait!

The ME Super pentaprism was coated with silver, much brighter than the Aluminium used by many other cameras, including the lower cost ME series bodies.

The Pentax 6x7 viewfinder is pretty amazing as well.
Best regards, John
Edited by johnriley: 10/10/2025 - 15:38
pschlute
Posted 10/10/2025 - 16:59 Link
The ME Super and ME F had very good viewfinders with 0.95% magnification and 92% coverage, better than the original ME (0.87/92%)

Best of all in the manual focus era of SLR's from Pentax was the MX at 0.97magnification and 95% coverage.
LennyBloke
Posted 10/10/2025 - 18:23 Link
pschlute wrote:
The ME Super and ME F had very good viewfinders with 0.95% magnification and 92% coverage, better than the original ME (0.87/92%)

Best of all in the manual focus era of SLR's from Pentax was the MX at 0.97magnification and 95% coverage.
How about the Pentax LX - if you use the waist level FF-1 finder the claimed magnification is 1.05x and there is less light loss from the mirrors in conventional viewfinders

The MX really is a joy to look through Peter
LennyBloke
Yorkie
Posted 11/10/2025 - 07:53 Link
I agree with you guys, the MX viewfinder is a joy to use, especially for my ageing eyes.
smc
Posted 15/10/2025 - 12:37 Link
From memory, the MX has near 100% coverage and near 1.0x magnification and with a 50mm lens was designed/could be be used with both eyes open.

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