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Just for fun, what are the 'cliche' shots

ChrisA
Posted 06/02/2014 - 16:58 Link
Gravelrash wrote:

Fancy saving me the learning curve and giving me a good exposure time for propped planes Mike?

1/200 or longer for most aeroplanes with propellers.

For the very slow-rotating WW1 aircraft, and things like the Tiger Moth or Stampe, slower still.

For WW2 aircraft with higher prop speeds, you can afford to go a bit shorter than 1/200, but probably no shorter than 1/250 unless they're taking off, with the prop in fine pitch.
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Edited by ChrisA: 06/02/2014 - 17:19
darkskies
Posted 06/02/2014 - 17:18 Link
This thread only goes to show we all have our own ideas about what we like and what we don't, what we can ignore in a photo and what we can't.

Another thing there'll never be a consensus for.

And, lets face it, so what?
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SteveEveritt
Posted 06/02/2014 - 17:22 Link
This will probably upset a few people but ... here goes
Steam trains
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darkskies
Posted 06/02/2014 - 17:49 Link
SteveEveritt wrote:
This will probably upset a few people but ... here goes
Steam trains

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smudge
Posted 06/02/2014 - 17:53 Link
SteveEveritt wrote:
This will probably upset a few people but ... here goes
Steam trains

What, all of them? The whole gamut from 'steam in the landscape' to close ups of valve gear???
Regards, Philip
alfpics
Posted 06/02/2014 - 18:12 Link
Just posted this in response DrOrloff's comment
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Gravelrash
Posted 06/02/2014 - 18:48 Link
ChrisA wrote:
Gravelrash wrote:

Fancy saving me the learning curve and giving me a good exposure time for propped planes Mike?

1/200 or longer for most aeroplanes with propellers.

For the very slow-rotating WW1 aircraft, and things like the Tiger Moth or Stampe, slower still.

For WW2 aircraft with higher prop speeds, you can afford to go a bit shorter than 1/200, but probably no shorter than 1/250 unless they're taking off, with the prop in fine pitch.

Thanks for that...might save me a wasted opportunity,
Steve

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Mike-P
Posted 06/02/2014 - 18:51 Link
Gravelrash wrote:

Fancy saving me the learning curve and giving me a good exposure time for propped planes Mike?

I did the same thing my first time

I have found 1/250th about right for most prop aircraft (apart from planes like the big Lancaster). Helicopters need a lot slower, especially the Chinook.

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Even 1/160th is too fast for the Chinook

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Jets: as fast as you can get away with.

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Gravelrash
Posted 06/02/2014 - 18:55 Link
Nicely done Mike. And thanks for the advice
Steve

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ChrisA
Posted 06/02/2014 - 19:26 Link
Here's an example of how you can't get away with as much with the slower RPM aeroplances...

As you can see, 1/250 is quite a bit too fast. 1/125 or even longer would have been a lot better:

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Fixed-pitch props on landing aircraft also go considerably slower - this is 1/125:

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Higher-revving props, especially with lots of blades, let you get away with shorter exposures - this one (working hard to keep up with the Hunter) is about as fast as you'll get away with at 1/320, but the Tiger Moth would have looked awful.

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HTH
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Edited by ChrisA: 06/02/2014 - 19:27
Mike-P
Posted 06/02/2014 - 19:32 Link
ChrisA wrote:
Fixed-pitch props on landing aircraft also go considerably slower - this is 1/125:

Only aircraft nerds photograph landing prop planes
dougf8
Posted 06/02/2014 - 21:35 Link
photographs of art,

e.g. you go to the Hepworth museum and take a picture of a sculpture then enter it into a comp, as if you were Duchamp adding your own sprinkle of magic dust to make it Art++.

Any photo of art immediate cliche uless you are a DaDa master. I mean, it's what the effing artist intended, it's supposed to look good... it's already Art!

(scluptures, pictures, architecture.... etc etc.)

sigh.... off to look for my medication .....I'm a guilty hypocrite
Lurking is shirking.!
Edited by dougf8: 06/02/2014 - 21:36
Mike-P
Posted 06/02/2014 - 21:40 Link
I do like photos of Graffiti .... not sure everyone thinks of it as art though
dougf8
Posted 06/02/2014 - 21:45 Link
Mike-P wrote:
I do like photos of Graffiti .... not sure everyone thinks of it as art though

With a Banksy it's probably advisable as it will be stripped and sold in New York quicker than you can say "formaldelhyde cow".

With the other stuff, I suppose it's ephemera and fair enough as a record but I'm stiff sniffy
Lurking is shirking.!
Edited by dougf8: 06/02/2014 - 21:49
Smeggypants
Posted 06/02/2014 - 22:00 Link
dougf8 wrote:
Mike-P wrote:
I do like photos of Graffiti .... not sure everyone thinks of it as art though

With a Banksy it's probably advisable as it will be stripped and sold in New York quicker than you can say "formaldelhyde cow".

With the other stuff, I suppose it's ephemera and fair enough as a record but I'm stiff sniffy

I've got three original Banksy's. Sadly they aren't the big "worth a lot of money" examples.
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