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johnriley
Posted 19/11/2015 - 08:26 Link
I've just been reading on Facebook that Reuters have a new JPEG only policy - all images must be shot in-camera as JPEG files, with no RAW to JPEG conversions accepted. The reasons given are integrity (minimal levels and cropping only and absolutely no manipulation) and speed (quicker to send and handle).

fotoLibra already want JPEG only, apparently because that's what their clients insist on.

I don't have any particular opinion on the subject, apart from whatever the client demands needs to be delivered, but I thought it was interesting.
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Gwyn
Posted 19/11/2015 - 09:53 Link
I read it too John.

Another reason is the number of photos rejected from press photo of the year after comparison of the RAW and jpeg versions. Too many too manipulated, resulting in the camera very much lying.
The lower quality doesn't matter so much in the ephemeral world of press photography. Truth is more important.
SteveLedger
Posted 19/11/2015 - 10:42 Link
johnriley wrote:
I've just been reading on Facebook that Reuters have a new JPEG only policy - all images must be shot in-camera as JPEG files, with no RAW to JPEG conversions accepted.

Technically all photos start off as RAW before being passed to the JPEG processor for 'conversion' in the camera..
Edited by SteveLedger: 19/11/2015 - 10:43
McGregNi
Posted 19/11/2015 - 10:46 Link
It's understandable for the context and factual purpose of the images. I wonder though, if levels and cropping is allowed does that mean that editing software is allowed? If so, once Photoshop or another programme has re-saved, or 'save as' a new jpeg, is there any way anyone could tell if any other edits had been made? I don't think any file history is saved in a jpeg is it?
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Algernon
Posted 19/11/2015 - 10:59 Link
Why do photographers immediately look at how they can be dishonest

Same here in the comments section .....

http://petapixel.com/2015/11/18/reuters-issues-a-worldwide-ban-on-raw-photos/#mo...

Seems no one is complaining they THEIR Work of Art is going to be completed from a poor quality JPG by someone else.

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Algi
Edited by Algernon: 19/11/2015 - 10:59
walkeja
Posted 19/11/2015 - 11:09 Link
I always shoot in to .jpeg and I don't think the quality is poor!
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Mag07
Posted 19/11/2015 - 11:33 Link
Frankly..I think whomever is behind the decision knows very little about digital image manipulation... to an average person - and that's roughly 99% of the world's population, jpgs edits are as difficult to spot as RAW edits. People that want to manipulate will continue to do so....it's not a show stopper in any way.
That said, journalists world wide should be happy - the shooting to RAW mentality is adding very often unnecessary work load. Even if you do a RAW+ many people often feel 'compelled' to edit the RAW instead of using a perfectly good JPG
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SteveLedger
Posted 19/11/2015 - 11:42 Link
walkeja wrote:
I always shoot in to .jpeg and I don't think the quality is poor!
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That's fine if you are happy to accept that someone else is deciding how to process your photos (the camera engineers) and to lose a lot of data and dynamic range.
If this Reuters thing isn't a hoax, then there's some silly ignorance going on.
McGregNi
Posted 19/11/2015 - 12:07 Link
There's nothing to stop a camera manufacturer putting a clone stamp tool into the cameras custom image settings .... That might be considered handy, just as the other computer editing settings on the camera are ...

Nice image walkeja! ... What camera computer editing settings did you apply to make it look like that?
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Edited by McGregNi: 19/11/2015 - 12:09
MrB
Posted 19/11/2015 - 16:24 Link
walkeja wrote:

I always shoot in to .jpeg and I don't think the quality is poor!

+1

Mag07 wrote:

Even if you do a RAW+ many people often feel 'compelled' to edit the RAW instead of using a perfectly good JPG

+1

McGregNi wrote:

Nice image walkeja!

+1

And high quality JPEGs can be edited in computer software to produce high quality results.

Cheers.
Philip
darkskies
Posted 19/11/2015 - 17:06 Link
MrB wrote:
And high quality JPEGs can be edited in computer software to produce high quality results.

Cheers.
Philip

Indeed, which only goes to show what a stupid thing Reuters has done!
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bwlchmawr
Posted 19/11/2015 - 17:33 Link
Right that's the last time I submit any images to Reuters as I only shoot RAW.

Wait a minute, I've just remembered, they wouldn't be interested in my shabby snaps anyway.
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JAK
Posted 19/11/2015 - 21:17 Link
Should put Pentax ahead of the others given their superior jpegs out of the camera. They'll all be rushing to get the FF next year. Can't see the sense of this decree though. What if a camera only takes raw images!!
There's a bit more about it here: http://petapixel.com/2015/11/18/reuters-issues-a-worldwide-ban-on-raw-photos/
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Edited by JAK: 19/11/2015 - 21:19
Algernon
Posted 20/11/2015 - 09:44 Link
JAK wrote:
Should put Pentax ahead of the others given their superior jpegs out of the camera. They'll all be rushing to get the FF next year. Can't see the sense of this decree though. What if a camera only takes raw images!!
There's a bit more about it here: http://petapixel.com/2015/11/18/reuters-issues-a-worldwide-ban-on-raw-photos/

Already posted above..... Do you not read previous posts

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walkeja
Posted 20/11/2015 - 10:34 Link
SteveLedger wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="walkeja"]I always shoot in to .jpeg and I don't think the quality is poor!

That's fine if you are happy to accept that someone else is deciding how to process your photos (the camera engineers) and to lose a lot of data and dynamic range.
If this Reuters thing isn't a hoax, then there's some silly ignorance going on.

Shows what you know, the jpeg is an ISO Standard, nothing to do with Japanese camera engineers!
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