Help please - HD Pentax-DA 16-85mm F3.5-5.6 ED DC WR


malfis

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 11:13
When I import any image taken on either K3, K5iis, K70, with the above lens into either Aperture or Lightroom, neither of these programmes pick up the lens description. The information on aperture, shutter speed, ISO is picked up. Why should this be?
BTW - I am delighted with the performance of this lens.
Thanks.
Lots of gear - but not a lot of idea!
Last Edited by malfis on 03/12/2016 - 11:17

MHOL190246

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 14:50
There is a lens profile creator available from Adobe via https://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=193&platform=Windows This might achieve what you need

McBrian

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 15:12
What version of LR are you using? as it's a fairly new lens I wouldn't expect it to be list in software that was published prior to the lens being release unless there was an update, I can't remember if it was listed in LR5 so you may have to be using LR CC 2015 or LR6 (standalone) versions.

The lens data and profile are listed in CC 2015/LR6:


Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.
Last Edited by McBrian on 03/12/2016 - 15:13

malfis

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 15:18
I probably have not explained correctly.
I am using Lightroom cc, and it picks up the lens information in the 'lens correction' adjustment when processing a raw file - so no problem with that.
What I am referring to is the information in the top left of the normal display window. This is useful because when you process a jpg there is no facility for identifying the lens when you go to the lens correction section.
This obviously does not cause any problem, it's just a case of getting as much information as possible at a glance.
Lots of gear - but not a lot of idea!

McBrian

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 17:17
LR has different lens profiles for RAW and JPG files, currently LR does not have (never has) lens corrections for JPGs tagged as created by a Pentax camera/lens.

From Adobe:
Quote:
Adobe Photoshop, Lightroom, and the Camera Raw plug-in include numerous lens profiles, which you can use to correct common lens aberrations such as barrel and pincushion geometric distortion. Most lens profiles also correct for vignette, where the corners of an image appear darker than the rest of an image. See below for tips on working with lens profiles, as well as a list of the lens profiles currently included with Adobe products.

Tips for working with lens profiles

•There are separate lens profiles for raw and non-raw files. Photoshop, Camera Raw, and Lightroom display only the profiles available for the file type of the selected image.
•Best results occur when you apply lens profiles to raw files.
•When you apply a lens profile to a non-raw file, such as a JPEG, you can experience unexpected results. Results vary because the data in non-raw files changes depending on how the file was created. If you get unexpected results with non-raw files, consider applying lens corrections manually or create a custom lens profile.
•For instructions on using lens profiles, visit the Help topic for your product:
• Correct lens distortion and adjust perspective (Lightroom)
• Correct lens distortions in Camera Raw (Camera Raw)
• Correcting image distortion and noise (Photoshop)
•Adobe plans to add support for other lenses over time. To request support for a specific lens, go to feedback.photoshop.com.

Note:
Tip: If your lens isn't currently supported, you can create your own custom lens profile.


Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.

tigershoot

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 21:49
Do you mean the information that appears top left in the develop module? Keep pressing 'i' on the keyboard and it will toggle between no info and two other sets of info. Maybe this is what you mean.
K3ii, K-5, K-x, DA150-450mm, DA16-85WR, DA16-45, DA18-55WR, DA18-135WR, DA35 F2.4, M100mm F4 Macro, DA55-300mm, FA50mm 1.4, AF360 Flash, AF540 Flash

malfis

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 21:52
tigershoot wrote:
Do you mean the information that appears top left in the develop module? Keep pressing 'i' on the keyboard and it will toggle between no info and two other sets of info. Maybe this is what you mean.

That's where I mean.
All the normal information is available - except the model of the lens.
Lots of gear - but not a lot of idea!

McBrian

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 22:00
malfis wrote:
tigershoot wrote:
Do you mean the information that appears top left in the develop module? Keep pressing 'i' on the keyboard and it will toggle between no info and two other sets of info. Maybe this is what you mean.

That's where I mean.
All the normal information is available - except the model of the lens.

Quote:
•There are separate lens profiles for raw and non-raw files. Photoshop, Camera Raw, and Lightroom display only the profiles available for the file type of the selected image.

There are no LR lens profiles for Pentax generated jpg files and that includes jpg file created from Pentax DNG or PEF files.
Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.

malfis

Link Posted 03/12/2016 - 22:08
Thanks to those who replied.
Please consider the thread closed.
Lots of gear - but not a lot of idea!

tigershoot

Link Posted 04/12/2016 - 19:12
Funny, now you mention it I see what you mean! I have the same lens. I use it nearly all the time anyway so I know that that is the lens used.
K3ii, K-5, K-x, DA150-450mm, DA16-85WR, DA16-45, DA18-55WR, DA18-135WR, DA35 F2.4, M100mm F4 Macro, DA55-300mm, FA50mm 1.4, AF360 Flash, AF540 Flash

malfis

Link Posted 04/12/2016 - 19:19
tigershoot wrote:
Funny, now you mention it I see what you mean! I have the same lens. I use it nearly all the time anyway so I know that that is the lens used.

Having had another look today, the lens information is showing correctly in Lightroom CC, but not Aperture.
I reckon that because Apple withdrew support for Aperture prior to the DA16-85mm being launched, that lens is not in the Aperture database.
Lots of gear - but not a lot of idea!

JAK

Link Posted 04/12/2016 - 20:27
Its strange that some lens types show up in general exif info but others don't, even though the lens type is recognised in software packages. I'm thinking in particular what Fxif displays in Firefox. Some lenses show up, others are ignored.
John K
Last Edited by JAK on 04/12/2016 - 20:27
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