DPR Best DSLR of the year vote


McGregNi

Link Posted 09/01/2014 - 18:35
dpm wrote:
why would it take anything more than a software upgrade to add the capability to a Canon?

I do not believe a software upgrade could make the sensor in a Canon DSLR shake. This particular example I am using is only that, an example, of different and incompatable technologies, to comment on where a degree of irrelevance can enter comparisons between brands. The origin of this was John's comment that once 'you've paid your money' (my interpretation - 'once you're committed financially, and have invested in a single system and learnt it and absorbed its operation') then certain discussions and desires are 'irrelavent'.

So, by example, I am saying that the Pentax sensor shake system is long established - there is now a desire for images to not be blurred by aa filtering if not required - Pentax's technology allows a new special solution built on top of the existing shake technology. It is relevant, and realistic, because it can be economically implemented into a single camera model - anyone can buy it and immediately benefit with all their lenses - its an instant 'system upgrade'.

Canon on the other hand, with 'in'lens' optical element image stabilisation, are clearly not in the same position - it is impossible to implement an 'aa filter simulator' by means of the image stabilisation system that could apply to the whole system, would be economic or realistic. So for their forum members to look at the K3 and start to request it from Canon - well, those discussions could fairly be termed 'irrelevant' to the Canon system ... because the desire is out of sync with the natural evolution of the system - it they needed that feature so much, they would be better advised to buy the K3.

The same principal would apply to some discussions on here - if it was out of sync with the natural evolution of the Pentax system,then likely also uneconomic - and irrelevant .....
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 09/01/2014 - 18:38

McGregNi

Link Posted 09/01/2014 - 19:10
Smeggypants wrote:
CMW wrote:
Quote:
But if you do stretch these things beyond such limits, into the realms of the unrealistic, then it just becomes a case of 'its not Pentax'.

By that token, you'd be buying film for your K7 ....






I don't think anyone can top that answer CMW

The best demolishing of 'utter rubbish' I've seen in a long time

I'm not so sure ... there's many similarities and indeed identical aspects between the film & digital SLR - and no question that the system remained compatable - so by my definitions in this context, a desire for a digital SLR built on the Pentax system would not have been 'irrelevant' to Pentax users.

A better film equivalent example would be the desire for, say, much greater quality and resolution, but within the restraints of a very compact camera system - where the quality limits of the film type that could actually fit into this compact system had already been reached, or in any case, the control was only in the hands of the film maker, not the camera maker. Here again, the discussions would be irrelevant to the camera users - their only choice would be to change camera systems to a larger format.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 09/01/2014 - 19:12

CMW

Link Posted 09/01/2014 - 20:20
The Dutch historian Pieter Geyl once described History as 'argument without end'. I now know he mis-spoke and meant 'Photography'
Regards, Christopher

ChristopherWheelerPhotography

McGregNi

Link Posted 09/01/2014 - 20:26
Is that 'photography without end', or 'argument without photography' ...
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

MattyH

Link Posted 09/01/2014 - 20:46
Where else in the world can you go from, Pentax winning a poll to a Dutch historian. That's why I love it on here.

McGregNi

Link Posted 09/01/2014 - 21:35
Its all part of the rich tapestry that is Pentax
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

claystevens

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 03:26
I voted.
Last Edited by claystevens on 14/01/2014 - 03:27
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