Dell Ultrasharp 23 (not 24) 12HM Monitor - differences?


Eastridge

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 10:39
Hi,

We are looking to upgrade to an IPS 'widescreen' monitor from a bog standard c 5 year old Dell 4:3 LCD. I know loads of people on here really rate the Dell Ultrasharp 2412M but at 200 it's over what we can really afford.

There is a Ultrasharp 2312HM which we can source a chunk cheaper, the only obvious differences being that it is 16:9 not 16:10 and clearly 1" smaller.

Is there any other differences that people are aware of e.g. in colour reproduction and also what has prompted so many of you to go for the more expensive 2412??

We believe that this monitor will show c. 75% of AdobeRGB colours but usually work with sRGB where believe it will cover c. 95%. We mainly use Elements 10 for PP and are usually happy to work with JPEG although sometimes RAW.

The other reason for upgrade is hubby is writing a novel and would like to be able to work two windows side by side more easily.


Any comments?

If anyone has any recommended alternatives around the 130 mark that would also be interesting.


Thanks anyone who can help.
Sharon's: K-x, FA35/2, DA 18-250.Glen's: K10D, DA100 Macro, 55-300, Paragon 500, Silk Pro700 Tripod

Gamka

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 12:04
Check how many colours they both support ... 16.2M or 16.7M

A 16.2M is a 6bit/channel and uses interpolation to get the other colours. A full 24bit, 8 bit/channel gives 16.7M

Have hada look at the Dell specs and they both claim 16.7M however they also say 8ms response time and I would associate those with 6bit monitors whereas an 8 bit tends to be nearer 20ms so a contradiction. Have a quick look at: http://compreviews.about.com/od/multimedia/a/LCDColor.htm



Also have a look at some of the LG range - as far as can be found out, the Dell monitors use the same LG panels it is just the input and control electronics, the case and interface.
Last Edited by Gamka on 19/05/2013 - 12:20

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pentaxian450

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 12:07
I can't comment about Dell products since I don't use them, but HP has introduced a 23 and a 25 in. IPS screens. I use both and I can say they're pretty decent, and cheaper than Dell.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
Last Edited by pentaxian450 on 19/05/2013 - 12:08

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cabstar

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 13:30
I boug a used one from amazon for 109 just before xmas and when it arrived it was like brand new, cheapest i can see new is direct from amazon here at 159

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B005MHMFJA/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&c...

Used one is 149 but only came with 30 day warranty. To be honest though i have never had an lcd monitor fail on me, most issues seem to be DOA or dead pixel issues which are usually spotted on dirst switching on.
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Eastridge

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 14:42
pentaxian450 wrote:
I can't comment about Dell products since I don't use them, but HP has introduced a 23 and a 25 in. IPS screens. I use both and I can say they're pretty decent, and cheaper than Dell.

Thanks Yves, do you know the model number of the 23"? I appreciate may be different over there to here but can then research.
Sharon's: K-x, FA35/2, DA 18-250.Glen's: K10D, DA100 Macro, 55-300, Paragon 500, Silk Pro700 Tripod

Eastridge

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 14:46
cabstar wrote:
I boug a used one from amazon for 109 just before xmas and when it arrived it was like brand new, cheapest i can see new is direct from amazon here at 159

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B005MHMFJA/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&c...

Used one is 149 but only came with 30 day warranty. To be honest though i have never had an lcd monitor fail on me, most issues seem to be DOA or dead pixel issues which are usually spotted on dirst switching on.

Thanks cabstar,


Can I take it that you are happy with yours? If you use it for your photo work and are satisfied I'm sure it would suit us, as your equipment / quality is a definite step up from ours.

That Amazon price looks good, I can also get a discount via my work from Dell directly, Hadn't considered used but's worth considering as you say.
Sharon's: K-x, FA35/2, DA 18-250.Glen's: K10D, DA100 Macro, 55-300, Paragon 500, Silk Pro700 Tripod

Eastridge

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 14:54
[quote:3496ace15f="Gamka"]Check how many colours they both support ... 16.2M or 16.7M

A 16.2M is a 6bit/channel and uses interpolation to get the other colours. A full 24bit, 8 bit/channel gives 16.7M

Have hada look at the Dell specs and they both claim 16.7M however they also say 8ms response time and I would associate those with 6bit monitors whereas an 8 bit tends to be nearer 20ms so a contradiction. Have a quick look at: http://compreviews.about.com/od/multimedia/a/LCDColor.htm


I have done some googling and it appears they ( both 23 and 24 I think) are 'native' 6 bit but with some processing wiz stuff to bring the numbers up. I appreciate that they are not as good as native 8 bit but as so many people here ( and other dp sites) are pleased with their 2412's that I am pretty sure it would be good enough for us, if the same as the 24" version.
Sharon's: K-x, FA35/2, DA 18-250.Glen's: K10D, DA100 Macro, 55-300, Paragon 500, Silk Pro700 Tripod

pentaxian450

Link Posted 19/05/2013 - 18:38
Eastridge wrote:
Thanks Yves, do you know the model number of the 23"? I appreciate may be different over there to here but can then research.

The model number of the 23 in. is HP 2311xi.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)

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Eastridge

Link Posted 22/05/2013 - 09:28
Thanks guys, revisited (again!) the previous threads on here as well as these suggestions and have gone with the Dell 23". Delivery due today
Sharon's: K-x, FA35/2, DA 18-250.Glen's: K10D, DA100 Macro, 55-300, Paragon 500, Silk Pro700 Tripod

cabstar

Link Posted 22/05/2013 - 13:22
Enjoy
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