CCD vs CMOS
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:14
I know what you mean, I just think it's the fact that the images are smaller and have a bit more sharpening.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:24
I honestly think it's not that simple. But thank you
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I know what you mean, I just think it's the fact that the images are smaller and have a bit more sharpening.
I know what you mean, I just think it's the fact that the images are smaller and have a bit more sharpening.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:42
In my experience (not scientific, purely subjective), when I've shot CCD sensor cameras in good light with good lenses, I've felt they can outperform similar spec CMOS sensors.
Get into anything other than perfect light however, and CMOS tends to win hands down.
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Get into anything other than perfect light however, and CMOS tends to win hands down.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:46
"...more bite and a certain something" describes exactly how I used to feel about shots from my K-m vs. shots from the K20d I replaced it with (in good light).
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:50
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:51
A lot of people seem to comment on the difference. It would be interesting to see two identical shots taken with sensors of both types for analysis.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:51
This comes up quite often, I have always said that pictures taken with my K10D seem to have a much better look to them when compared to Pentax cameras since (K20D, K-7, K-5, K-5II). The CCD sensor (to me) gives what I call a glossy look to low ISO pictures while the CMOS gives more of a matt look.
Over ISO 800 (and that's really pushing it) I will take the CMOS sensor every time though
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Over ISO 800 (and that's really pushing it) I will take the CMOS sensor every time though
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 12:59
Thanks Mike, that describes my experience. I love the Kr but I feel that it doesn't have the same 'oomph' at lower ISOs.
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Mike-P wrote:
This comes up quite often, I have always said that pictures taken with my K10D seem to have a much better look to them when compared to Pentax cameras since (K20D, K-7, K-5, K-5II). The CCD sensor (to me) gives what I call a glossy look to low ISO pictures while the CMOS gives more of a matt look.
Over ISO 800 (and that's really pushing it) I will take the CMOS sensor every time though
This comes up quite often, I have always said that pictures taken with my K10D seem to have a much better look to them when compared to Pentax cameras since (K20D, K-7, K-5, K-5II). The CCD sensor (to me) gives what I call a glossy look to low ISO pictures while the CMOS gives more of a matt look.
Over ISO 800 (and that's really pushing it) I will take the CMOS sensor every time though
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 13:00
I assume you're looking at JPEGs from the cameras, is that right? Either camera generated embedded jpegs on the LCD screen or camera created & edited JPEGs on a computer screen?
Well, its difficult to be sure you're making a fair comparison unless you're sure you have equalized and eliminated any processing differences, at any stage of the process.
Pentaxophile's point above may not be the full story, but its very likely to be a significant factor.
In my testing of shots from the K5ii / s models it was clear from an early stage that there were different default sharpening algorithms applied to the embedded previews - so it seems likely that there would be considerably wider discrepancies between your two models with years of development and different technologies between them.
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Well, its difficult to be sure you're making a fair comparison unless you're sure you have equalized and eliminated any processing differences, at any stage of the process.
Pentaxophile's point above may not be the full story, but its very likely to be a significant factor.
In my testing of shots from the K5ii / s models it was clear from an early stage that there were different default sharpening algorithms applied to the embedded previews - so it seems likely that there would be considerably wider discrepancies between your two models with years of development and different technologies between them.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 13:05
THank you! Even more unfair as I am comparing RAW conversions from the Kr to JPEG from the K100d Super. Even JPEG to JPEG comparison favours (in my eyes, and it is surely a matter of taste) the older model.
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McGregNi wrote:
I assume you're looking at JPEGs from the cameras, is that right? Either camera generated embedded jpegs on the LCD screen or camera created & edited JPEGs on a computer screen?
Well, its difficult to be sure you're making a fair comparison unless you're sure you have equalized and eliminated any processing differences, at any stage of the process.
Pentaxophile's point above may not be the full story, but its very likely to be a significant factor.
In my testing of shots from the K5ii / s models it was clear from an early stage that there were different default sharpening algorithms applied to the embedded previews - so it seems likely that there would be considerably wider discrepancies between your two models with years of development and different technologies between them.
I assume you're looking at JPEGs from the cameras, is that right? Either camera generated embedded jpegs on the LCD screen or camera created & edited JPEGs on a computer screen?
Well, its difficult to be sure you're making a fair comparison unless you're sure you have equalized and eliminated any processing differences, at any stage of the process.
Pentaxophile's point above may not be the full story, but its very likely to be a significant factor.
In my testing of shots from the K5ii / s models it was clear from an early stage that there were different default sharpening algorithms applied to the embedded previews - so it seems likely that there would be considerably wider discrepancies between your two models with years of development and different technologies between them.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 13:33
Can we see some examples/comparisons?
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 13:37
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Can we see some examples/comparisons?
Can we see some examples/comparisons?
Yes, please check my Flickr Link- the last three uploads.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 13:52
Do you have the same shots taken with both? Then link to your flickr from here to show the differences. Your flickr pages don't make it obvious what one's seeing as a comparison.
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Posted 04/10/2013 - 16:47
A powerful set of images indeed. However, putting some on here with descriptions would be very helpful.
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I have a Kr currently which I love- I uploaded to Flickr some K100D shots today and took in air when I witnessed what I considered to be shots with more bite and a certain something.
Am I Mad.
Your input is most welcome!
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