Canon/Nikon closest equivalents to the K-5?


ChrisA

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 16:20
A friend is about to take the plunge into digital. She currently has a Canon film camera of some description, and two or three consumer lenses. Her two daughters each have a 40D with a kit lens.

From what I know about her likely budget, I'm suggesting she looks at a few cameras in the K-5 price/spec bracket.

So what would be the nearest thing to a K-5 in the Canon and Nikon worlds?

From what I can see at a cursory glance of specs, it would be the 60D and the D7000.

Would that make sense?
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johnriley

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 16:23
Not really a topic for Pentax User Chris, much better put to a Canon or Nikon forum, who would know much more about it. They could start with the appropriate sections at EPZ, who in particular I think have a dedicated Nikon section.

They might as well go for a K-r plus two lenses, they will get much better value.
Best regards, John

Mike-P

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 16:28
ChrisA wrote:


From what I can see at a cursory glance of specs, it would be the 60D and the D7000.

Would that make sense?

Yes.
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ChrisA

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 16:43
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johnriley wrote:
Not really a topic for Pentax User Chris, much better put to a Canon or Nikon forum, who would know much more about it. They could start with the appropriate sections at EPZ, who in particular I think have a dedicated Nikon section.

Well obviously I'm suggesting she looks at the K-5 as well!

The trouble with Canon and Nikon forums is that by the same token they're just as likely not to know much about Pentax, and since I know nothing about Canon or Nikon, I wouldn't be in a position to evaluate what they told me.

I thought that specifically asking Pentax users, given that many have cameras from other brands as well, would be the quickest route to information I could trust.

Surely that's not inappropriate?

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They might as well go for a K-r plus two lenses, they will get much better value.

Well yes - the same argument would equally apply to other brands of course. Lower down the body range, gets you an extra lens. But she's a very capable individual, so I suspect she'll want not to sacrifice body features.


Edit: oops - I meant to put this into 'General Digital photography chat', which is for 'For any digital matters not concerning Pentax Digital SLRs or Optios'.

I now note that I put it in the Pentax DSLRs by mistake - apologies. Could a mod move it for me, please?
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Last Edited by ChrisA on 19/09/2011 - 16:51

ChrisA

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 16:52
Mike-P wrote:
ChrisA wrote:


From what I can see at a cursory glance of specs, it would be the 60D and the D7000.

Would that make sense?

Yes.

Cheers Mike
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johnriley

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 16:54
No, this is the right place. Note the full stop. General Digital Photography chat is for scanning, Photoshop, printers, etc.

Which is why I moved it here!

Seriously though, she won't get the compatibility that she'll get with Pentax and at the moment the K-5 price is looking hard to beat. Why point her towards something not as well made, pound for pound (or dollar for dollar depending where you are).
Best regards, John

Mike-P

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:02
If she currently uses a Canon film camera and both her daughters use a Canon DSLR I would have thought it would make more sense that she also bought a Canon. That way they can share any lenses and cut costs considerably.
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ChrisA

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:04
johnriley wrote:
No, this is the right place. Note the full stop. General Digital Photography chat is for scanning, Photoshop, printers, etc.

Which is why I moved it here!

Ah, ok. I thought I was going a bit mad there.

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Seriously though, she won't get the compatibility that she'll get with Pentax and at the moment the K-5 price is looking hard to beat. Why point her towards something not as well made, pound for pound (or dollar for dollar depending where you are).

Well of course - I'll be making all those points. But she doesn't know Pentax and already knows Canon to a point (she didn't choose the 40Ds for her daughters).

It's no good, me owning a Pentax and then saying to her, ooh, of course Pentax is the best - even if I think it is. Sounding like a fanboy when in reality, both Canon and Nikon make very good cameras too, would simply lack credibility.

The only way of influencing sensibly is to act impartially, even if I do think she should get rid of her rather mediocre set of Canon lenses and start again
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johnriley

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:05
Actually might not be the case as Canon changed their lens mount, it depends on how long is a long time.
Best regards, John

Mike-P

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:08
johnriley wrote:
Actually might not be the case as Canon changed their lens mount, it depends on how long is a long time.

If the 2 daughters have 40D's then there are no compatibility issues at all. As for the film camera lenses, that's another matter.
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johnriley

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:09
It's unfortunate if we end up with a scenario though that the guy in the shop can't be trusted because he wants to sell you something and the guy who's bought something can't be trusted because he's a fanboy (terrible word, you should see how it's bandied about in a derogatory way) - who do you trust?

I think you made your choice Chris in a rational way, so your opinion will be good advice. I'm sure your friend will see whatever you say as genuine advice.
Best regards, John

ChrisA

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:14
Mike-P wrote:
johnriley wrote:
Actually might not be the case as Canon changed their lens mount, it depends on how long is a long time.

If the 2 daughters have 40D's then there are no compatibility issues at all. As for the film camera lenses, that's another matter.

All her film camera lenses fit the 40Ds, I've already checked that.

One of them is a 35-105, which is a reasonable range for film but a bit daft for APS-C, so IMO she should get rid of that anyway.

That leaves three 18-55s between them, and a Canon IS 70-300 (don't know which one).

It's a motley selection, which is why I think starting with a blank sheet of paper wouldn't be a bad idea - apart from the fact that there are already two 40Ds in the house.
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ChrisA

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:18
johnriley wrote:
I think you made your choice Chris in a rational way, so your opinion will be good advice. I'm sure your friend will see whatever you say as genuine advice.

Well ironically, I really didn't

I bought the K10D largely because of its much-vaunted compatibility with old lenses, of which I had quite a few at the time.

We all know now that the K/M exposure problems are a real pain in the rear end, so that was completely the wrong reason for getting it (not that there weren't plenty of others I know about now), and I've now got rid of all those lenses I was originally planning to use with the K10.

Getting the K-5 was more rational, given the truckload (well, small mini-van, anyway) of lenses and flashguns that I now have.

I don't regret the decision, but getting into Pentax digital originally was entirely serendipitous, really.

My advice will indeed be genuine, for all that
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Last Edited by ChrisA on 19/09/2011 - 17:19

johnriley

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:22
I've just had another thought - it might be worth checking that Canon and Nikon cameras will actually autofocus with those lenses. Just like the Pentax KAF3 mount being in-lens motor only, there might be issues, especially with somne Nikon bodies.
Best regards, John

ChrisA

Link Posted 19/09/2011 - 17:28
johnriley wrote:
I've just had another thought - it might be worth checking that Canon will actually autofocus with those lenses. Just like the Pentax KAF3 mount being in-lens motor only, there might be issues, especially with somne Nikon bodies.

Yes, good point. I think they do, since the daughters are forever hassling their mum to borrow her lenses, but it's worth checking.
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