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Can anyone advise as to the quality of these two lenses please

petemasty
Posted 29/11/2011 - 20:25 Link
I've come into the possession of two m42 mount primes lenses. Cant fit them to my camera without an adapter so can't really compare them to my Pentax A 50mm 1.7. so was wondering if anyone out there can give me some info, feedback or other such knowledge on these two lenses. They are:

-Helio-44M 2/58 (f2)

-Auto Rikenon 50mm f2

Your help is greatly appreciated.
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Pentaxophile
Posted 29/11/2011 - 20:36 Link
Can only comment on the Helios, which I have in K-mount. I haven't done a direct comparison to my 50mm f1.7, but it is a nice lens with extremely characterful 'swirly' bokeh.

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Transit
Posted 29/11/2011 - 20:38 Link
Helio
there...I like the first guys comment cheap, sharp, cheap
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Edited by Transit: 29/11/2011 - 20:39
petemasty
Posted 29/11/2011 - 20:45 Link
Just had a look on Flickr for Helios pics and I gotta say they give a very unique bokeh.
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Algernon
Posted 29/11/2011 - 20:58 Link
The Rikenon is rare in M42. It should be sharp, probably
similar to the Yashicas and could well be made by Tomioka.

Helios lenses do vary, but about 1 in 4 is usually very
good.
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petemasty
Posted 29/11/2011 - 21:09 Link
Algernon wrote:
The Rikenon is rare in M42. It should be sharp, probably
similar to the Yashicas and could well be made by Tomioka.

Helios lenses do vary, but about 1 in 4 is usually very
good.

does 'rare' equate to worth a lot? Please let it be true!!!
Pete M
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sorted78
Posted 29/11/2011 - 21:16 Link
Quote:
does 'rare' equate to worth a lot?

Probably not, unfortunately. It should be a nice lens, though. I've got a Chinon 55/1.4 that is also Tomioka-made and it's pretty good. The bokeh I get with it is different to the Pentax and Helios.

Definitely worth getting an M42 adapter to have a play, anyway.
Algernon
Posted 29/11/2011 - 21:35 Link
petemasty wrote:
Algernon wrote:
The Rikenon is rare in M42. It should be sharp, probably
similar to the Yashicas and could well be made by Tomioka.

Helios lenses do vary, but about 1 in 4 is usually very
good.

does 'rare' equate to worth a lot? Please let it be true!!!

Is £10 to £30 a lot

The Chinon 55mm f/1.4 is an awesome lens usually
goes for around £65 which is cheap for the super
bokeh that it has. I have the f/1.4 and f/1.2 versions.
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Edited by Algernon: 29/11/2011 - 21:40
petemasty
Posted 29/11/2011 - 21:41 Link
Algernon

i was sort of hoping that the Rikenon was worth somewhere in the region of £3, million. Y'know, a bit like that photo of the River Rhine that sold recently.

That said, I'm always happy to accept an offer in the millions for this lens. I'm sure its a work of art. I'll even go and get an adapter and lens covers and throw them in for free.

Just order an adapter, so i can have a play and do some comparisons. with my Pentax A and M 50mm f1.7s.
Pete M
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petemasty
Posted 29/11/2011 - 21:42 Link
I paid £33 for the two lenses and a Pentax A 50mm f1.7, so i think i got a bit of a bargain with that little lot.
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Mike-P
Posted 29/11/2011 - 21:54 Link
The 50mm is worth twice that on it's own so I would say you did ok
petemasty
Posted 29/11/2011 - 21:55 Link
Woo-hoo!! Back of the net!!!!!!!!!!

I may even kiss the wife!!
Pete M
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Algernon
Posted 29/11/2011 - 22:02 Link
It's mostly the bokeh that's different, although the Pentax
lenses have good bokeh wide open as well.

I doubt if you will notice much difference in sharpness.
The Pentax lenses should just edge it.

This is a good site for bokeh samples link
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Algi
Edited by Algernon: 29/11/2011 - 22:05
beachboy2
Posted 30/11/2011 - 08:16 Link
I have the Helios 44M with M42 mount. It's probably my favourite lens for taking orchid photos.cheers
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Edited by beachboy2: 30/11/2011 - 08:17
Frogfish
Posted 30/11/2011 - 15:16 Link
I have a Helios 44M (M42 mount) and as has been stated a lovely, different, bokeh .. which is why most people buy it (and it's quite sharp too). A keeper.
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