Back Focusing HD DA 70mm F2.4 Limited
Posted 09/11/2021 - 23:15
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PRYorkshire wrote:
This is the first time that I have found a lens to be this far out, particularly with it being a new Limited.
Back/Front focus issues have been with us since AF first appeared in the 1980's. Only with higher MP cameras and the ability to pixel-peep do we notice them as much.This is the first time that I have found a lens to be this far out, particularly with it being a new Limited.
They can be caused by the camera (AF sensor registration distance) or the lens , or a combination of both.
I have done extensive testing on My K1. It suffers with a general BF. I need on average +7 for accurate focus, but on some lenses it requires +5 and on a couple +10 is only just enough. I have also discovered that making the camera focus from infinity or closest-focus distance to the subject can make a difference.
What can also make a difference is the light under which you take your picture. I learned a while ago that trying to calibrate a lens for AF under artificial light can lead to odd results. If you really noticed the issue when photographing under candle light, that may itself be a contributor to the problem.
Peter
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Posted 15/11/2021 - 14:10
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Front or back focusing is quite common but can be remedied, though it's been my experience that the AF systems on my K200D and K-3 still aren't precise enough to always hit the mark.
Focusing on a ruler is not a good way to do this because the AF "point" is not really a point at all, rather an area. Anything within that area is fair game for the AF system, regardless of where the user wants it to focus.
Here you have a link to a proper test chart with full instructions on how to do it properly: http://fotospec.com/doc/focus.pdf
Print out the chart itself rather than using a computer screen. Focus as close as possible and at maximum aperture.
Focusing on a ruler is not a good way to do this because the AF "point" is not really a point at all, rather an area. Anything within that area is fair game for the AF system, regardless of where the user wants it to focus.
Here you have a link to a proper test chart with full instructions on how to do it properly: http://fotospec.com/doc/focus.pdf
Print out the chart itself rather than using a computer screen. Focus as close as possible and at maximum aperture.
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Fan of DA limited and old manual lenses
Posted 15/11/2021 - 15:38
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pschlute wrote:
I have done extensive testing on My K1. It suffers with a general BF. I need on average +7 for accurate focus, but on some lenses it requires +5 and on a couple +10 is only just enough.
Have you considered using the debug menu to adjust the fine tuning to include this offset? It doesn't take long at all, I performed it on the cheapo K-1 I picked up that required over +10 adjustment and now it's perfect at 0 for most lenses.I have done extensive testing on My K1. It suffers with a general BF. I need on average +7 for accurate focus, but on some lenses it requires +5 and on a couple +10 is only just enough.
I can support you if you'd like to try it.
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Posted 15/11/2021 - 18:45
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HarisF1 wrote:
I can support you if you'd like to try it.
That is a very kind offer, but I think I will leave things as they are. The important thing is that AF/FA does not change over time, so at least with my existing lenses they will all continue to work well for as long as the camera does. pschlute wrote:
I have done extensive testing on My K1. It suffers with a general BF. I need on average +7 for accurate focus, but on some lenses it requires +5 and on a couple +10 is only just enough.
Have you considered using the debug menu to adjust the fine tuning to include this offset? It doesn't take long at all, I performed it on the cheapo K-1 I picked up that required over +10 adjustment and now it's perfect at 0 for most lenses.I have done extensive testing on My K1. It suffers with a general BF. I need on average +7 for accurate focus, but on some lenses it requires +5 and on a couple +10 is only just enough.
I can support you if you'd like to try it.
The two lenses that probably need +10.5/+11 I can live with that. For a general scene it is always close enough, for a close up I will be using manual focus anyway, so I do not think it is required.
Should anything change I will give you a shout, and thank you again for the offer.
Peter
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You can see that the lens is focusing at 18cm, 3cm behind where it should be.
I then adjusted the AF Fine Adjustment to +7 and success the focusing is now sharp at 15cm.
This is the first time that I have found a lens to be this far out, particularly with it being a new Limited.
K1000, Espio 140, ist, istD, K70, K3iii and numerous lenses, just don't tell my wife.