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A New Approach to Mirrorless for Pentax?

Lubbyman
Posted 30/12/2022 - 13:34 Link
With Ricoh/Pentax declaring that "our goal is to provide PENTAX camera products that involve intricate, time-consuming, satisfying actions" and making it very clear that they will not be following the crowd and developing a mirrorless substitute for their DSLRs, might this be what they should be aiming for? Not a mirror in sight...

Steve
Spad
Posted 30/12/2022 - 13:56 Link
For me.... i would prefer to keep a mirror. This is because i am seeing everything in true colour and as i see it. Not tainted by electronics. Another reason is that it won't be a camera for me... it will be gawking at yet another screen!!

As i was told by a photographer i was talking to using a canon mirrorless... there is a slight delay with it when tracking moving objects.... this would put me off it straight away!
The Legendary Terry Pratchett once said:
At the beginning there was nothing... which exploded
Edited by Spad: 30/12/2022 - 13:56
Flan
Posted 30/12/2022 - 17:52 Link
Spad wrote:


As i was told by a photographer i was talking to using a canon mirrorless... there is a slight delay with it when tracking moving objects.... this would put me off it straight away!

Absolutely there is a delay, as i found out one day when panning a group of horses on a gallop, i just got blurred green fields. It took me a while for the penny to drop that the live screen is a delayed screen and that was with my Panasonic LX7 and finished me forever with electronic view finders or screens, which are probably faster these days but still, a mirror viewfinder is real time and anticipate the moment without having to guess.
Lubbyman
Posted 30/12/2022 - 18:42 Link
Have you clicked on and read the link in the original post ... ?? Here it is again

Steve
Flan
Posted 30/12/2022 - 21:57 Link
Nice link Lubbyman and appreciated as it is nice to discover new material👍
I blame Spad for leading me astray😇
Posted 31/12/2022 - 14:07 Link
I don't know anything about Mirrorless cameras, but I watched a Youtoob fella with one who was cursing his for always getting sensor dust spots, said they are like "magnets for dust these Mirrorless cameras".
Spad
Posted 31/12/2022 - 14:21 Link
Flan.... i have just farted in your general direction....

I also missed the link too!!

That is so cool, but we could do something similar! Use mirror up shooting and remove the lens cap!!!
The Legendary Terry Pratchett once said:
At the beginning there was nothing... which exploded
Edited by Spad: 31/12/2022 - 14:22
Flan
Posted 01/01/2023 - 00:29 Link
Happy new year Spad and many a fart from across the sea
womble
Posted 08/01/2023 - 20:55 Link
If I had the time, money and a driver (I don't think that lot would bungee to the back of my motorcycle...) I'd love to try "alternative processes". I'm still waiting for the darkroom at work to be cleared for use... they have had the air filtering system sitting in boxes in there for a very long time.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
petrochemist
Posted 14/01/2023 - 15:27 Link
I've no plans to try wet plates on my 5x4 cameras, but a few other alternative processes may creep in.
His images all seem to have considerable artifacts from the processing - much more than I've seen in other wet plate stuff.

The big lens I finally got mounted on a lens board over christmas might actually work reasonably well for cyanotypes, it's fast (5" wide & 150mm focal length makes ~f/1.2) yet still transmits UV better than most - managing 50% of it's peak transmission at 375nm.. In camera cyanotypes might just be practical Comment Image
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.

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Edited by petrochemist: 14/01/2023 - 15:30
womble
Posted 15/01/2023 - 17:26 Link
petrochemist wrote:
I've no plans to try wet plates on my 5x4 cameras, but a few other alternative processes may creep in.
His images all seem to have considerable artifacts from the processing - much more than I've seen in other wet plate stuff.

The big lens I finally got mounted on a lens board over christmas might actually work reasonably well for cyanotypes, it's fast (5" wide & 150mm focal length makes ~f/1.2) yet still transmits UV better than most - managing 50% of it's peak transmission at 375nm.. In camera cyanotypes might just be practical Comment Image

That'll be fun!
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
petrochemist
Posted 15/01/2023 - 20:38 Link
womble wrote:

That'll be fun!

I hope so, rather than just challenging!
The only images I've recorded through this so far have been on my Pentax digitals. Through the viewfinder shots solves shutter issues, but I've not managed one yet with the image looking focused.
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.

.[size=11:].FlickrWPFPanoramio

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